What do you do when your idea for creating a new act or show just isn’t working? Shayna Swanson, the founder of Aloft Circus in Chicago, speaks about the long process of

making her newest show, Brave Space. She also talks about the full time training at Aloft and why she thinks circus is a punk rock art form. Please note, there is mention of sexual assault in the episode and listener discretion is advised.

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